Oil cooler innova

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Oil cooler innova

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Hi, does someone have a oil cooler on his innova? I tried to fit one today but it seems like the oil coming verry slow out of the oil cable.. So thats not good..

I see on greek forums that they fit it on the head bolt from the cylinderhead..(like the honda grom) So i did it on the same way..

Is there a other way or do i need a stronger oil pump? 🤔
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DonS hat geschrieben:
Mo 5. Nov 2018, 21:14
I thought about mounting an oil heater to bring oil temperatures up to a intended level. Allways had the impression the innova engine runs rather to cold in my every day driving conditions.
Maybe by a original motor it is.. But mine has some upgrades, and when i drive fast it get a litle bit too hot i think..

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DonS hat geschrieben:
Mo 5. Nov 2018, 21:33
I understand. You try to make a arabian horse out of a donkey!
Congrats, this will keep you busy for a while!
Yeah something like that indeed! 😅🤣

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How are the temperatures from your oil when you drive faster?
Wave' d gerade... :inno2:
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sholloman hat geschrieben:
Mo 5. Nov 2018, 21:58
How are the temperatures from your oil when you drive faster?
I have ordered a oil temp sensor so i dont now how warm he get exactly.. But he gets warmer than original. Engine has about double hp so i think i need it for sure

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Take serious Oil (Paso 5) that can stand the High Temperature Rape,
rather than trying to cool Parts of the Engine down...

Famous Motul 300 :prost2: ,
7100 will work pretty good in a Hot Cub too... :inno2:

Shorten the change to every Race if neccessary... ;)

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measure the oil temperature first. Usually CUBs are running rather cold and for example my Suzuki GS500e was also without an oil cooler and temperatures of 140°C where easily possible and the engine was totally fine with that. You just need the correct oil. I'd rather simply switch to 20W50 instead spending hours for mounting an oil cooler
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DonS hat geschrieben:
Di 6. Nov 2018, 06:05
Innovacub hat geschrieben:
Mo 5. Nov 2018, 22:26
sholloman hat geschrieben:
Mo 5. Nov 2018, 21:58
How are the temperatures from your oil when you drive faster?
I have ordered a oil temp sensor so i dont now how warm he get exactly.. But he gets warmer than original. Engine has about double hp so i think i need it for sure
I‘m a little bit puzzled, to say the least.
You’re seriously intending, or even worse - allready started (!) to install an oil cooler to the engine WITHOUT even knowing how hot - or not hot it runs? You havn’t checked this in advance. All guesswork?
Are you trying to fool us up here?
There wil be a thermostatic between the cooler, so that he dont run cold when i am driving slow.. So no guesswork 🙃

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Now he id driving whit schell oi,l but I have ordered castrol power rs 10w40 hope that help a bit. Thx for advice

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DonS hat geschrieben:
Mo 5. Nov 2018, 22:50
You say the oil is running out of the tube/pipe very slow. Don’t forget the normal oil pressure in the Honda Innova engine is very low.
In fact there is a circulation rather than a pressure.
I’d try the oil cooler mounted like recommended and watch if the temperature comes down under forced driving conditions.
Maybe it’s doing the job anyway.

Edit: when i wrote this post i hadn‘t noticed the upper comment. I‘d definitely not mount an oil cooler without even knowing the facts!

Yes it comes out really slow or almost not.. It dont have the power to put the oil by the oil cooler. So this wouId be normal then 🤔then i think that i need a stronger oil pump🤔

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DonS hat geschrieben:
Di 6. Nov 2018, 08:11
The point is that the Innova tends to run rather cold.
I‘m pretty sure oil temperature seldom to never reach the recommended 80-100 degrees with the standard engine.

Good chance that your engine is working at optimum temprature right now!
Mounting an oil cooler might be contraproductive. Not more than a useless gimmik.
Without checking the oil temperature propperly in advance it‘s all mumbo jumbo.

It‘s a little bit like asking the doctor for medicine but refusing to tell him what hurts.
I wil see what tempature he gets when i am have te oil temp sensor, but i think it wil be too hot when driving fast. Brother got a original innova and when we drive together i can feel that mine got a bit warmer then his innova.. You can hold the hand easy on his engine but wil burn your hands on mine..

But like i said it wil work whit a thermostat, So if the engine is a bit cold there would be flowing no oil between the cooler.

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This cheap Oil temp Sensor from aliexpress.com (about 3 Euro) gives you and us a hint too...

Seek for 110cc 125cc Temperatur Gauge.

Castrol Power Flakes where till 2014 really good Paso 4 Oils, if not the best.
Since 2015 till today there are only Paso 3, good Hydrocracks, not more...
(Cost of Deepwater Horizon, who knows ?)
Not the best in a heavy tuned Air-cooled Engine with only 800ml of Oil,
it will Die much faster, you have to change it several Times over the Year
if you love your Engine...

Get fore a little tuned Motor the best you can afford :prost2: :inno2:
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IGN hat geschrieben:
Di 6. Nov 2018, 11:11
Ölthermometer.jpg
This cheap Oil temp Sensor from aliexpress.com (about 3 Euro) gives you and us a hint too...

Seek for 110cc 125cc Temperatur Gauge.

Castrol Power Flakes where till 2014 really good Paso 4 Oils, if not the best.
Since 2015 till today there are only Paso 3, good Hydrocracks, not more...
(Cost of Deepwater Horizon, who knows ?)
Not the best in a heavy tuned Air-cooled Engine with only 800ml of Oil.
Dont now a lot about oils.. Would be the castrol power rs not that good? Wich is today a good oil for this engine?
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Take the next Time Motul 7100 10W-40 on your Cub.
A real Paso 5 Ester Blend, far beyond the new Castrol "Racing Power" since 2014.

300V is really only for Racing Bikes and People who always push it to the Limit.

You can use 7100 15W-50 on a long Tour in a Hot Summer like this Year.
The higher the Viscosity, the longer it will stand till next change,
but you have to warm up the Engine longer. Not good for a City Cub.

... always take 1 x 1 Liter, not 1 x 4 Liter.
It starts to become weak like Coffee Milk or IGN's Beer :laugh2:
if you open the "Big Container",
the Rest of 3,2 Liter in it have now Air. Not a good Idea.

You dont have to pay the usual 20 Euro / 1 Liter...

https://www.motoroel100.de/epages/62593 ... %201X1L%22
8 Euro / Liter is enough.
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Servus,
every year the same story: the oil is to hot & kill the engine. Whatfor? Zwegnwas?
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